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In this episode, you’ll hear about:
- How Elizabeth is breaking the rules, freeing herself from convention, and doing things her way
- Why Elizabeth ISN’T jumping on the entrepreneurial bandwagon of more and more growth – and what she’s doing instead
- Whether spontaneity and consistency can co-exist in business and how Elizabeth incorporates play into her working life
- How Elizabeth uses movement and dance to stay in connection with her body and enhance her conscious awareness
Welcome to The Intuitive Entrepreneur Podcast, I'm your host Brigit Esselmont, intuitive business strategist and mentor. As the founder of Biddy Tarot, I turned my love for Tarot into an abundant 7-figure business. The secret to my success? Making intuition and strategy my entrepreneurial superpower. And now I'm inviting you to do the same, in this weekly podcast I'll be sharing advice, tools and real life examples from some of the best intuitive entrepreneurs, to show you how you can trust your intuition, align with your purpose and create a positive impact through your work. Let's make it happen.
Brigit: Hello, and welcome back to The Intuitive Entrepreneur Podcast, today I'm talking with Elizabeth DiAlto, she's the creator of Wild Soul Movement, author of Untame Yourself, and the host of the popular Truth Telling with Elizabeth DiAlto Podcast. Known for her raw, honest and grounded approach to leadership, growth and connection, Elizabeth is a teacher, leader, speaker, coach and trainer to groups and individuals. Now Elizabeth works with women internationally through her digital programs and speaking engagements, and then also more intimately through her in-person intensives, retreats, workshops, Wild Soul Movement teacher training and occasional one-on-one immersions.
Now in today's conversation, we talk about how Elizabeth is breaking the rules, freeing herself from convention and doing things her way. We talk about why Elizabeth isn't jumping on the entrepreneurial bandwagon of more and more growth, and what she's doing instead. We talk about whether spontaneity and consistency can coexist in business, and then how Elizabeth is incorporating play into her working life. And we also talk about how Elizabeth uses movement and dance to stay in connection with her body and to really enhance her conscious awareness and connection to her higher self.
I know you're going to love this conversation as we get in deep with intuition and how Elizabeth is integrating intuition into her business, and also into her life. So with that, let's get started.
Brigit: So, welcome Elizabeth, I am super excited to have you here on The Intuitive-
Elizabeth: I'm so happy to be here.
Brigit: Yay. So let's just get straight into it, tell me what does it mean to you to be an intuitive entrepreneur?
Elizabeth: Can I just say how it feels? It feels so good, it's also been my inclination in everything in life to do things my own way, and to question authority. And I didn't really have the context around that, in so many ways I was tapping into my own intuition or innate wisdom, however you want to describe it, until, I don't know, maybe 2010, 2011, is when I really started to see it in that language and explore it and understand it, and embody it in that way. But what it means to me, truly, is not having to do anything that isn't in alignment for me. It's not having to seek my answers outside of myself, not having to keep up with anyone, not having to be in these damn Facebook groups with entrepreneurs asking questions about how to do things, because I just know.
Brigit: Yeah. And is this something that has been available to you throughout your full entrepreneurial journey or did it take a little bit of walking the path first, and then being able to drop in to that space of where you can fully trust yourself?
Elizabeth: Totally had to walk the path, first. And it actually wasn't until 2015, when I was reverse engineering my own growth and evolutionary path and designing the core curriculum for my Power program, which is my flagship thing that I run every year online, it's a year-long woman's circle, that I realized that, that was a big piece of it.
Brigit: So tell me a little bit more about that, how did you get to that place that you felt really confident about trusting yourself and doing it your way, instead of perhaps the latest business model or whatever was going to 10 X your growth?
Elizabeth: It actually came from a couple of years of being in Masterminds, joining expensive groups and programs, trying to do the things that people said worked, and it wouldn't work for me. And in fact, during that time, from 2010 to 2013, I had done Marie Forleo's Mastermind and I made a lot of friends there. And actually ended up dating a popular online entrepreneur and so, and our friend group... Again, a lot of these people who probably some of your listeners would know their names, have done their programs, blah blah blah, I don't need to use people's names because it's not about throwing people under the bus, because what works for them, works for them. But I remember it was so demoralizing to be around all these people and be like, why is this stuff working for them, and not me?
In some cases I would be like, I'm a better person, I actually give a shit about people, I'm not just about money, I have integrity. And which, by the way some of those people do, which is why I'm not really throwing around a lot of names because I don't want to mix who's who. But I had to do a lot of, I call it [RND 00:06:13] of trying things out, seeing that just doesn't work for me because it's not me. That's not who I am, that's not how I'm built. And then also coming to the place to realize I also don't share a lot of the values and priorities that these people have. I saw this great quote on Instagram today that was something like, "There's a big difference between saying, All are welcome here, and, This was created with you in mind." And that's what I think, I think there's some people who are just blanket, like big marketing, they want to get as many people as possible into a thing, but it's not going to work for everyone.
And because I had the experience of being like, what's wrong with me? And then realizing, oh it's not what's wrong with me, it just literally isn't for me. That gave me a ton of faith to be like, oh well what is? I think I'm just going to have to forge my own path.
Brigit: Can you give me an example of something that you had tried and you quickly realized it wasn't in alignment. Like what happened, and at what point did you realize that this was out of alignment? Was it even before you started, or was it during the middle? Tell me more.
Elizabeth: Membership sites. Three times now, as recently as this past year with Patreon. I don't know if it was 2013 or 2014, I tried to launch a membership... No, it has to be 2013 because I was still doing fitness stuff, I tried to launch a membership, a $19 a month thing. And then in 2015 or 2016, I launched something, it was called The Wild Soul Insiders, where I think that was $15 a month or something, and then this past year I started a Patreon platform and because really I'm like a prolific creator, when people are like, how do you do so much? I'm like, you don't even understand how much comes through that doesn't even make it to the internet, it's just like things ar flooding in all of the time. And I just have, over the years, wanted a place to put these things, that could potentially be useful for others.
But what I realized is, when I have to do it on a schedule, that stops the flow.
Brigit: I can so resonate with you on that, I've noticed that in my business too, where like at the beginning stages, you're in the creative moment, you write when you feel compelled to. And then you think, okay let's increase productivity here, let's make this consistent and you start getting into batching, and I loved batching for a while. But then I just got to a point, I'm like, my creativity feels so stifled and I actually just threw in the towel. That's when I said, right I'm done with the blog posts, I'm done with the podcast because I felt so trapped. So it's good to hear that you've had a similar... Well it's not good that you've had the similar experience, but similar awakening around it.
Elizabeth: There is an element, I was thinking about this earlier today which is cool because I love synchronicity, and I didn't even know this was what we were going to talk about, but I just can't do anything that's forced. Even remotely forced, I just can't do it. I think one of the reasons why my own podcast has been literally the only thing I've ever been able to be consistent with, we're coming up on four years and our 300th episode, is because it's just enough structure but it's set up in a way that still allows me to flow, and be myself and explore and follow my curiosity. So I really only batch podcasts, I'll record two days a month, people schedule themselves, I don't plan a lot of things, I don't prepare a lot of things. I have two questions that I ask in the beginning, and then the whole rest of the conversation is organic, which I know doesn't work for a lot of people, works for me.
And that, to me it feels so fun, and it's also because I follow my curiosity and all the conversations are stuff that I'm so deeply interested in anyway, I can be consistent versus, having this thing that I need to plug stuff into and fill up in order to be consistent. Does that make sense?
Brigit: Yes. 100%, I felt that so much because I'd meet with my team, we'd look at the next 13 weeks, we'd go, all right to get some more search engine optimization, let's do this topic. I'm like, oh it feels tiring, you could do it for a little bit, you can go, okay fine, let's make that topic. But yeah, it comes to a point, like no, my energy's not in it. And do you know, it's interesting I used to think that spontaneity and perhaps consistency were mutually exclusive, you can't really have both. But what I'm hearing from you is, that you can and I can really resonate with that now, that you can have both. Tell me more about how do you ensure that you've got that consistency and spontaneity?
Elizabeth: I think, because it's aligned with my values, so one of my biggest values is learning, which also is fueled by curiosity and I am such an insatiably curious person. And as well, I used to be such a voracious reader and I think it's an impact of the internet and our culture now, but I just can't sit and read like I used to, or study like I used to. I am much more interested in learning through conversation. I also think because there's this illusion of connectivity right, we can reach people in so many different ways. Like you and I could have done this on Skype, we could have done Crowdcast, we could've done [inaudible 00:12:06], we're on Zoom, so many video conferences. We could've done FaceTime, we could've called each other, Facebook you know.
So there's all these different ways to connect, but it doesn't mean that we are connecting more, and it doesn't mean that we're going deep. That's another thing I really value, is depth. So by having the consistent thing I do, have deep conversations, I always want to do that, I'm never going to get tired of it. I'm never bored, I'm never burned out, I'm like, yes I want to do this.
Brigit: Mm. And I believe that you made some decision perhaps a few years ago, around depth and your courses where... What was the course link? You know what I'm referring to, right? Tell me more, a little bit about where, perhaps you've gone down that one path and you've realized no, you know what, this is out of alignment with my value of creating more in-depth experiences?
Elizabeth: Yeah, yeah for sure. So a couple of different things here actually that have allowed me to flesh out and have not only a fuller business model, but a business model that allows me to offer some things at more generous and accessible pricing for people. Because there's higher end things that still help to provide me with a sustainable lifestyle so that I can make things more accessible. I love it so much, because my one-on-one work with people is not... it's not like the most high end price point, but it's definitely not something that everyone is going to be able to access, which means that my programs, I can offer partial scholarships, and I can continue to do my podcast for free, I don't have to worry about getting sponsors and stuff like that.
So that's one way that has woven through, but as well, originally when I launched my Wild Soul Movement virtual program, is 12 weeks, and I started to realize, oh people aren't able to work through because it goes deep, people aren't able to work through this in 12 weeks. And then they feel bad, they feel like they fell behind or blah blah blah, or they're trying to keep up, and they're not getting to go as deep in the work as would actually serve their growth and healing. And so then I made it ongoing, like go at your own pace, well that wasn't as effective either because people need a container. Being on a journey together with a group, it just has a momentum to it, and a structure to the support that keeps people moving and keeps people going and keeps people accountable. So that's why I now have a year-long program, because then it's a container but it also gives people plenty of time to work through.
And it's so ironic, because it was always set up, like there's four topics and four seasons, and 12 mantras and 12 months, it makes total sense that it would be a year. So making that shift, and this is actually the first year I'm running it as a year, but even just a quarter into we're wrapping up the first topic, and I'm seeing how much more the women are able to work through and move through and actually transcend and unpack, because they have the time. And because they have the space, and it's not like new content coming out every week, one of the things that I've incorporated within my programming and also just in my own business in the project management is kinder timelines.
Elizabeth: Which has really made a difference.
Brigit: Tell me more about that, because I am actively exploring... Well, actually I'm not doing a very good job at it.
Elizabeth: I was wondering, because we worked on this.
Brigit: Tell me about spaciousness, and how do you incorporate spaciousness into your life?
Elizabeth: So this was one of the things, intuitively in 2013 as I started creating Wild Soul Movement that I was really beginning to connect in with these things that make me who I am. So words like, wild and untamed, things that connect to nature, the first photo shoot, which if you go to Untameyourself.com you'll still see some of that imagery there, we did it on a beach, it was really about connecting seasons and cycles. And not everyone in my community and not all women have a moon cycle, or a menstrual cycle or still bleed whether that's been for health reasons or menopause, you know whatever it is, so there's the moon cycle and I love looking at cycles within cycles, within cycles, right. Even in my business, realizing that once November rolls around, I hibernate, I'm like an animal. I don't want to travel as much, I don't want to be creating as much, it's really an inward time. So even though I launched the year-long program Power during that time, it doesn't require me, I'm not generating anything new, I'm just enrolling for the thing that exists. You know what I mean?
Elizabeth: I don't run workshops during that time, I don't do one-on-one client work during that time. I wrap everything up end of October to middle of November so that really, November, December, January, and even into February, I don't have to be doing output, or new creation so much. Because that winter season, which I'm in the Northern hemisphere, that's my own inner, quiet, slower time. Whereas once March rolls around, I'm ready to do one-on-one client work again, I'm ready to travel, I'm ready to do workshops and all this stuff. So I really load up my schedule from March to October with all that more outward focused stuff, but then that one winter season really allows me to regenerate. And so similarly with the Arc of Power, the Power program which uses Wild Soul Movement as the movement practice, the embodiment anchor where you go through surrender and release and trust and receptivity and then wild dreaming and desire, and then love and truth, and even that lines up with the seasons of the year, which I didn't do on purpose.
But it all works out, when you just go, okay what are my rhythms? What makes sense for me? What have I been doing the last few years? When do I need time to myself? When do I want to be out and about? Notice those patterns.
Brigit: And to me, it just reminds me of you either swim upstream or downstream.
Elizabeth: Mm-hmm, yeah.
Brigit: And just going with the flow is just so much more easier, rather than trying to push against everything and expect certain outcomes.
Elizabeth: Yeah, and I love Astrology. I don't live and die by it, I don't revolve my life around it. But when there's big things going on, new moons, full moons, the seasonal equinoxes, and solstices or big astrological events, I'll just pay attention and treat it like, okay there's some supportive energy happening right now, whether it's some energy that could potentially interfere with the thing and I'm just mindful of it. I just incorporate that into what's going on, and it's really helpful.
Brigit: Yeah, but not living and dying by all of it, right?
Elizabeth: No, no. No.
Brigit: Yeah, so you don't go into a bunker during Mercury retrograde?
Elizabeth: You know what's funny, I have a lot of my major signs are ruled by Mercury, I was born during a Mercury retrograde so when Mercury retrograde rolls around I'm like, ah yes, this is my time. It feels good to me, it's like an excuse to slow down and be a little more cautious and be a little more careful about stuff, so no, I don't freak out about that, at all.
Brigit: I want to share something that you shared on your Facebook page, and that's this, it was "I cannot stress enough how completely replacing all the noise of how other people do things or what's cutting edge, with my own intuition and higher guidance has served me immensely." Tell me more about this.
Elizabeth: So the other part of that post, is like, "I don't care about scaling, I don't care if my business ever makes a million dollars." And I realized this, it had been an inkling for a couple of years but then last year I realized, because I'd also been in the second full year of going through a very deep healing process after leaving an emotional abusive relationship, but also deep diving into work around social justice, anti-racism work, privilege, unpacking white supremacy and all these things. And it's interesting how the healing from emotional abuse, gaslighting, narcissism, codependency that kind of stuff, actually really lines up with unpacking all those other things around unconscious bias. It was so humbling, it really reoriented me around a lot of the mindsets in entrepreneurial spaces in communities. It's just like more and more and more and more is better versus what is sufficient, what is enough? What do I actually need to be happy?
And one of the things that occurred also just because I allow things to unfold and then trust when life shows me and when I get feelings, was I had moved into a larger home in Malibu, it was three bedrooms, three bathrooms, had a big space where I could host workshops and stuff, and all I was craving to do was downsize. Find an apartment building, be closer to things and more people and more activities, and literally I just wanted to be in a one-bedroom, one bathroom apartment. Not even a house, an apartment I wanted to be back in something small and cozy that felt like it could really hold me.
And I was like, what's enough? It wasn't about the money, it wasn't about paying cheaper rent, it was just like, what do I actually need, to be happy? And I think about this a lot, when I walk around, I live in Los Angeles, and I live by Venice Beach and sometimes I'm walking around in these neighborhoods where not a home costs less than a million dollars, and I'm like, do I need a million dollar house, ever? I'm like, I can't say that I do, I'm not closing myself off to the possibility. But I'm like, what I actually need is a space that feels like a sanctuary, it's sacred. I like open-floor layout, I cook a lot so I need space in a kitchen, and I need a bath tub. That's basically what I need for my home, you know.
And so just allowing things to be simpler, and really questioning, do I really want that, or do I think I want it? Because it's just been indoctrinated into me from all of these communities that I've been spending my time in. So I left entrepreneur communities, from Facebook groups to Mastermind groups, to events that I've been going to year in and year out; I stepped out of these communities. And some people are familiar with the phrase, FOMO, Fear of missing out, there's the opposite of that is JOMO, the Joy of missing out.
Brigit: I haven't heard that before, I love it.
Elizabeth: The JOMO is immeasurable, I don't care. I would have friends being like, oh did you see what so-and-so posted? Or Oh, did you hear about that? And I'm like, no. No. I literally cleared out... You asked earlier about space, talk about space, getting myself out of those groups, having no idea who's scaling what, who's doing what? Because the other thing is this, this is by having a podcast called Truth Telling, where I can invite people to talk about things like social justice or all these other things where it's like, what's going on in the world? How can we help? How can we be more inclusive? How can we be part of the solution? Often being part of those groups anyway, would really hit on my justice button, and would really poke at my integrity. Because I would see people doing things that were like, knowing that behind the scenes these people are not who they put themselves out to be on the internet.
And I'm just not really built to see something and not say something, but often saying something is not a good use of my time.
Brigit: This comes back to that whole piece about alignment, right, and finding what's in alignment and also I think it's easy, when you're part of communities is to get caught up in the hype, and the constant push to grow, to take opportunities as soon as they present themselves.
Brigit: And if for whatever reason you're choosing to work, say five hours a week, like what are you doing? Why aren't you using the other 40 hours for running your business?
Brigit: How does that even work? And I find sometimes I can lose my sense of self because I get confused around, what part of my desire to move forward is from what other people are doing, verus what I actually truly really want. And I find that sometimes that it takes really deep listening to be able to hear what it is that you truly want. So I'm curious, how do you do your deep listening? How do you discover what is truly you?
Elizabeth: So, I move a lot, a lot of my work is around embodiment, so I really believe in that power of moving the body. Going into this year, I was feeling a little exhausted by social media and I was like, how can I make this fun? Again, the consistency, how can I make it not something that every other month I'm like, I'm so sick of this, I need to take a week off. Right.
And I'm like, ah, I'm just going to do embodiment videos every day, well I committed to 333 days out of 365. Which sometimes it's stretching, sometimes it's Yoga, sometimes it's more of like my Wild Soul Movement practice, often it's dancing. I pick a song, and I just post the video on Instagram. The goal, first of all it was about accountability for me to move my body more, but also to remind other people to get out of their heads and into their bodies. It's one of my little tag lines that I use a lot in my work, and it's working. I'm getting notes from people all the time, like oh my god, I was having a rough day the other day and I thought of you and I put on this song and I danced it out, and I felt so much better. And I'm like, yes! My plan is working! And I want to do it, and I look forward to it and every day it's like, ooh what's going to be my song? Which is also inspiring me creatively, and I'm connecting to music and I went back so Salsa dancing which is one of my favorite things to do, and now I'm doing that twice a week again.
It's shifted some of my priorities, and as well with more focus on my physical body, a lot of my healing and deep listening has happened doing the mental, emotional and spiritual work, but my physical body, I call this learning to speak your body's unique language at the senses. I take that for granted because it's a deep practice of mine, but taking the time to be with it, concentrated every day. So specifically in the morning, for me I dream a lot and I find that veil is thinner in the morning, and I don't think this is unique to me, I think this is pretty common if not for a lot of people, for almost everyone if you take the time to notice it. But I know some people have kids, and you're waking up and there's not... So whatever you've got going on in your life this might be accessible, it might not.
But for me, as soon as I wake up in the morning after I get peeing, get some water, I will journal anything I can remember from my dreams. I get a lot of information from my dreams and then I have, every time I start a new journal I write out a prayer for that specific journal, some intentions, some quotes, other prayers if there's other... I love Tosha Silver, she has some change me prayers, that I just want to use, sometimes it's excerpts from oracle cards that I might have pulled. And so there's a couple of pages of things that anchor me into my intentions, what is important to me? What makes me feel connected to myself and my spiritual practices. I don't meditate every single day, I'd love to tell you I do. A couple of days a week I do transcendental meditation in the morning, it always feels super nourishing when I do. And then I get on with my day, sometimes I take a bath in the morning, sometimes I get right into work or writing or whatever I'm going to post on social media for that day, or my embodiment video. Sometimes I have a meeting or go right into interviews but just at least that little bit of time in the morning to anchor in and see what's up.
But then throughout the course of the day, I'm essentially having conversations with God, all day long.
Brigit: I love it.
Elizabeth: I do live by myself, I often wonder because I can hear my neighbors often, I'm like, can they hear me? Do they know that I'm literally in here talking to myself. I'm having conversations, or just being delighted by my own existence. I'm having a good time, I'm noticing things, sometimes I'm watching or reading things and exclaiming out loud, just being with life, you know?
Brigit: Yeah, that's neat. And so when you're doing more of this embodiment or movement, what's happening for you? Is it about moving energy through, is it about connecting with parts of your body? Where does that go for you?
Elizabeth: It's really grounding, first of all, always, always, always reconnecting with my breath, right. And just remembering that I'm a person, and I live in a body on an earth. So the movement, first of all, is sensitizing me to my body, reminding me to be in this thing and just noticing what I feel. So when I turn on a song, the whole point of it is to be free movement, I'm not doing a choreographed dance. And part of the work is unhooking myself from it needing to look any way, I don't care, I'm not a trained dancer. I've taken Salsa lessons, and I used to teach Zumba, so if I have a lot of practice in anything it is more like Latin dance stuff, but it's really just where does my body feel tight, where is there tension? Where does there need to be nourishment?
I touch my own body a lot, really about self-affection not in a sexual pleasure way, and I've been single now for two and a half years, so just noticing when I need touch, hi. I can give that to myself as well. Right. And of course, I date and I have lovers here and there but I can give myself... I can squeeze my arm, I can rub my own shoulder, I like connecting to my body. And I also... this might sound weird but, over the course of the last several years I've put on 30 pounds, I really enjoy my juicier body, I like touching it, it just feels good. I like jiggling my thighs, it just makes me feel alive.
We can see, I know this is only audio but I could see you and I see you giggling over there, and I'm like, I get it. It might sound weird, but it's so enjoyable to me.
Brigit: I can resonate with that, because I think sometimes we forget that we're in a body, as in I have those moments where I'm in the car, I'm driving and I suddenly wake up and I think, holy moly, where am I going? Like, am I meant to be here? Am I meant to be in the car? I have lost myself so much, that I need to be brought back, and even just the simple act of, yeah touching yourself, and again not sexually necessarily, but there's my arm.
Elizabeth: Sensually, right? Just like sensual.
Brigit: Yeah, yeah.
Elizabeth: And it literally turns you on in the sense of wakes you up, activates your cells, and like you said, also gets the energy moving and pumping and brings you back to your own attention.
Brigit: Mm. Yes.
Elizabeth: Which then translates into presence, which then translates into being able to notice the synchronicities or overhear something someone says that actually was really useful for you. Or you can have a cool engagement with a stranger on the street, like an idea pops in, you're listening, you're there, you're alive, you're engaging... obviously I enjoy talking about this.
Brigit: It's good. Look, I really appreciate your ability to move freely, to talk freely, express freely and I think it's something that particularly as women we've been in some ways, held back from doing that. And you have your book, Untame Yourself, this is this untaming that I can see you absolutely living in your life. Tell me a little bit more about this concept of untaming yourself, and how that plays out for women?
Elizabeth: Well first of all, we're all socialized and conditioned and programmed in all kinds of ways, based on where you grow up, what the community is that you grew up in, if there was any kind of religion, what is the family history of the culture, the society that you live in, there's all kinds of things that factor into that. So Untaming Yourself is about just examining it, looking at what is the conditioning and the programming, what are the things that you've agreed to that maybe you don't actually agree with, that don't align for you.
And so what's interesting is, I didn't have the term unconscious bias until a year or two ago, but that's essentially what we've always been looking at. We've always been looking at what's the programming and would I actually choose that? Does that actually work for me? And then if it doesn't, okay what do you want to experience instead, right. When I use words like wild and untamed, sometimes people are imagining barefoot, screaming in the woods. And that might be some people's version of wild and untamed, but say you're like a mega-introvert and you've been around extroverts your whole life, and the weekend rolls around and you try to muster it up to go out with your friends. What might be wild and untamed for you is staying in on Friday night with a book, and being like, I'm so happy.
It's just about honoring yourself, aligning with your nature. I say this a lot too, who you are and how you are built, and setting up your life to honor that, as much as you possibly can. Versus, constantly trying to conform and contort yourself to be what other people want you to be, which part of this involves the trust that you were talking about earlier, which is just a practice. You have to practice and practice and practice it, so it becomes second nature. And as well, being really kind and compassionate and accepting with yourself. For again, being who and how you are, and being okay with that it's not going to be for everybody and you don't need everybody.
Brigit: Yeah, I think maybe it's one of these lifelong journeys that we're working on, because there is so much unraveling that needs to happen, we are so conditioned by our surroundings and circumstances. And also, by perhaps our level of awareness, so if we're not fully aware of it we will continue to remain in the conditioned state. But when we become more aware of it, like we're not resolved but you can start to unravel more.
Elizabeth: Like for some people, I do want to say, because this is very important sometimes some of that conditioning are trauma responses to things that have happened to them that need to be resolved with deeper healing, and specialized treatment, right. This isn't just mindset work, this isn't just, we can't, law of attraction our way out of actually blueprints in our bodies that exist because we have trauma. You know I what I mean, there's a lot of people out there walking around with complex PTSD, who don't know what complex PTSD was. And I'm pointing a finger at myself, for 33 years I didn't know what that was, and I was I like, oh, this is why I'm frikking hypervigilant in this, this and this circumstance? Got it. I understand now, and I can work with it.
And also when I say, be accepting, that some things if you are a person who has trauma, some things are just going to be not really ever fully resolved, and that's okay. You're going to be able to live with that, and work with that, and be kind with yourself and considerate and make choices based on, that's not a safe environment for me. That's not a healthy environment for me, that's going to really deregulate me, so I'm not going to do that. You know what I mean, versus this is going to be really nourishing, yes I love doing that, yes that's very healthy for me.
So a lot of this is also, and you and I had talked about this before we started recording, yes, intuition is an amazing thing, and it can really serve you in very practical ways.
Brigit: Hm. I'm curious with conditioning and intuition, one of the so-called dark sides of intuition is that our conditioning can lead us to make, perhaps false intuitive decisions. So we might think it's our intuition talking to us, but in fact it's a conditioning that we've had throughout our lives that we may be not be fully consciously aware of. How do we tell the difference and is that even important? Maybe it's not, I don't know.
Elizabeth: So there's some overlap here, because the word that's coming to mind that's important to acknowledge and explore is fear, right. And I think there's a difference between impulse and intuition. Our impulse and our instincts are going to be more primal, and those primal responses will be a little more responsive to fear but some fear is healthy, and some fear is conditioned. And also, and this goes more into my world view and spiritual belief systems so take this or leave it, people listening, if it resonates for you. I don't really believe in wrong choices, I believe if we made the choice that was the thing we chose at the time and we'll get something out of it. Right, like it will work out eventually and we might not be able to see it right away. So I don't really do regret, I don't really over analyze, was that the right move, whatever, that's what I felt was my intuition at the time.
For me, something that's really helped me with this, is a system called Human Design, it's super complex, I don't even go that deep into it, I just look at the type and the inner authority. I'm someone that's called Emotional Authority, so I need more time to feel into things, some people aren't some people have what's called Splenic Authority, which is like that impulse is their intuition. Then there's some people who need to wait to respond, like they need a stimulus so they can that, aha or uh-huh, distinct feeling in their gut that happens there. So again, this is one of those things that's a little more nuanced than being like, this is your intuition, this is your impulse, this is fear, this is intuition. What helps me more than worrying about what's the difference is going, regardless I'm going to be fine, and I'm going to work with it. And whatever happens, whatever unfolds I'll figure out a way to make it useful and serve me and let it be healing in some way, shape or form, or help me grow on the other side of it.
So it's a big answer, but it's going to be a little different for everybody.
Brigit: And it's all information, I think.
Elizabeth: Yes, yes.
Brigit: Even when we make decisions that may not have led to the best outcomes or perhaps weren't based on the best criteria or decision-making criteria, I think we can just really learn from that. And that's what then gives us the information for the next time we're presented with a similar situation.
Elizabeth: And this is one of the things that I love about embodiment practice and learning to speak your body's unique language of the senses, because if you're paying attention and feeling your body often if something is fear-based or fear-driven it will feel more constrictive in the body, right. Whether that's tightness, tension, a stomach ache, and there's a difference between butterflies that are going ugh something's off or wrong here and ooh this is exciting, and let's move in the direction of that. Right. So by paying attention you can start to discern between what's what and learn. If something feels, it might feel risky and dangerous, but for whatever reason you feel calm, expansive, open, then that might be something to move towards versus if it's like giving you anxiety, stressing you out, making you really judgey and analytical, those are the things that we can notice to go, okay, might this be good and healthy? Or might this not be a great choice.
Brigit: All of that is really coming down to just more awareness, and the more that we can bring awareness into our lives, the better. It was probably more eloquently put that this, but with meditation I always thought, okay meditation I'm going to sit there, do my 20 minutes and I'll get all these amazing insight, right and then 90% of the time I feel disappointed because I didn't get the magical answer from the heavens. But what it's really about, is it's preparing you for the other 23,5 hours of the day, right. So perhaps this is the same with things like embodiment, and being more aware of your body, may not have the fireworks and the insights dropping in right at that very point in time, but when something gets a little bit tense or something's not right, you're in the right mind state to recognize it for what it is.
Elizabeth: Yeah, and it's also somatic bodywork, so it's also helping to regulate the nervous system, and it also helps you to just navigate through, maybe not even for insights, but sometimes it's just about getting the energy moving in the body so an emotion can pass through. Right. Or getting something unstuck that was blocking you up or in the way, there's so many different things, and we can't always explain it. This is what's fascinating about having a podcast about intuition, is that you constantly get to try to explain the inexplicable.
Brigit: That's it, and in fact just as a side-note, I'm doing some research around intuition and entrepreneurship and as part of good research you're meant to find good evidence, and good scientific data, the only things that exists around are the things that I go, that's not what I know of intuition, right. So I think, yeah it's very hard to make it very scientific and...
Elizabeth: Have you heard of the book, Executive ESP?
Brigit: Ooh, I have not. I will check it out.
Elizabeth: Check that out, there actually are a lot of, a lot of, a lot of executives, even CEOs and even a lot of men who really... they might call it something different, but it's intuition.
Brigit: Mm. Yes, I see it a lot in terms of the decision-making process, and how we can make quicker decisions. And I feel that there is so much more to intuition and entrepreneurship than just how quickly we make a decision. Things like, how aligned are we to our vision, how aligned are we to ourselves, our sole purpose and so on, right. But this is the stuff that can't be explained yet, by science and data.
Elizabeth: And then we shame people, right, I even think about some people, their sales processes where they're trying to get people to make a decision on the spot, that's not how that person should be making that decision.
Brigit: Mm. That is true. Yes, yes.
Elizabeth: And then shaming people, well if you can't decide then, and they're like, no, truly, they might just need a couple of days. That's it.
Brigit: Yeah, that's it. Beautiful, so tell me about what's emerging for you over the next 12 months? And in fact, given you, you're probably more in that spontaneous place, is this even something that you have in your awareness? Or do you allow it to emerge and unfold for the next 12 months?
Elizabeth: Both. The answer is both. So this is the first full year, that I have the awareness around how I want the model to work, right. So I'm just working the model, and I'm enjoying it. And I'm also, I go in and out of cycles of dating, I want to really do more Salsa dancing and really align my travels with some of these big Salsa festivals all around the world, I'm so inspired by that. So it's also about having space in my life to live it and not just... I've been detoxing out of... I wouldn't classify myself as a workaholic for many, many, many years now, but just really fully live my life, enjoy my life, prioritize my physical health. I have a little niece now, so going back to the East Coast more often so I don't miss these beginning stages, I can't believe... I know you have kids, I can't believe how fast they grow. And make my brother FaceTime me so she knows who I am.
Elizabeth: And she does, she perks right up, it's so funny. So there's just, connection is real a big priority for me, inside and outside of my business. But I will say this, so I published that book you mentioned Untame Yourself, in 2015 and I've always known a second book was coming, and what the topic would be, but I wasn't clear and sure until, I want to say a month or two ago. So now that I know what that is, I self-published the first time, I want a traditional publisher this time and as well I want to give a Ted talk on the concept, Tedx or whatever. So but again, I'm not not really trying to squeeze and control that situation, I like to call it, which this isn't my quote and I don't know where it comes from because it gets misattributed all the time but, "I like to move my feet while I pray." So figuring it out, but also just surrendering it a little bit too.
Brigit: Yeah absolutely, and I'm curious too, what new aspect of yourself are you expressing in this year?
Elizabeth: The theme for me is really unhooking from this system, especially around, I just for International Woman's day did this online challenge called, Do it for your own gaze, so as a woman, especially a curvy woman, just really taking back, I am divorcing myself from other people's opinions of my appearance, I just don't care anymore. So if men want to objectify me and sexualize me, good for you, I just don't need to know. So you're going to leave a comment on my post, I'm going to delete it, like you're going to give me a pice of feedback about my appearance, I don't care and that feels so good. Even doing these embodiment videos, sometimes I'm in a really sexy mood but I don't want to post that video, I'll record a couple and I'm like eh. Because I don't need the attention, I don't want the attention, that's not the point. The point is to do it for me, which ironically I'm noticing in my dating life, is making me so much more magnetic because I don't need or want anything from anyone.
So when I do connect with someone, it's because I really want to.
Elizabeth: And that brings a juiciness to it that's really enjoyable.
Brigit: It's very powerful, and very courageous as well. I love it.
Elizabeth: People just think that I'm this fearless person who just does whatever sometimes, and I'm like just, yeah I have vulnerability hangovers too.
Brigit: That's very admirable. Awesome, so Elizabeth where can people find out more about you?
Elizabeth: The best place is to go to Wild Soul Movement.com or follow me on Instagram @ my name ElizaethDiAlto, everything occurs there. And I have one of those handy little links on my Instagram profile that just also takes you to everywhere else and everything else you could ever need to know. Podcast episodes, akashic record readings, one-on-one stuff, workshops, it's all there.
Brigit: Love it, awesome. Thank you so much Elizabeth,.
Elizabeth: Thank you, so fun.
Brigit: I have enjoyed this conversation very, very much and really appreciate your time and your energy today.
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